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Same Quantity, Different Answer: Numerical Representation Invariance in Language Models
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Computer Science > Computation and Language [Submitted on 27 Jul 2026] Title:Same Quantity, Different Answer: NumeComputer Science > Computation and Language [Submitted on 27 Jul 2026] Title:Same Quantity, Different Answer: Nume

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  • [Submitted on 27 Jul 2026][Submitted on 27 Jul 2026]
  • From: Ephraim Atta-Duncan [view email][v1] Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:33:38 UTC (3,800 KB)From: Ephraim Atta-Duncan [view email][v1] Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:33:38 UTC (3,800 KB)
  • - artifacts/consensus/gpt-oss-20b-mxfp4/consensus_metrics.json- artifacts/consensus/gpt-oss-20b-mxfp4/consensus_metrics.json

Computer Science > Computation and Language

[Submitted on 27 Jul 2026]

Title:Same Quantity, Different Answer: Numerical Representation Invariance in Language Models

View PDF HTML (experimental)Abstract:Numerically equivalent word problems should yield the same canonical answer whether a quantity is written as a decimal, fraction, percentage, number word, scientific notation, or an exactly converted unit. We generate 3,600 exact-rational problems and 8,600 prompts spanning five identity-preserving transformation families, and evaluate five open-weight systems. After a fixed syntax audit that normalizes common answer forms without an LLM judge, canonical accuracy is 0.969-0.996, but orbit correctness falls to 0.848-0.981 and orbit invariance to 0.851-0.981; invariant-but-wrong orbits account for at most 0.003. Most of the broad strict-parser collapse arises because multiplication-form scientific notation lies outside the implemented number grammar, illustrating how evaluator interfaces can masquerade as reasoning failures. A distinct semantic pathology remains: Mistral Small 4 scores 0.699 on unit-converted inputs and produces 265 errors differing from the label by exact powers of ten. In a separate 9,000-call experiment that allocates equal calls to the compared arms, representation consensus does not outperform paraphrase consensus on a low-error subset and produces substantially more false alarms. The accompanying ancillary archive contains the frozen benchmark, evaluation and audit records, consensus raw responses, manifests, analysis code, and a one-command paper build.

Submission history

From: Ephraim Atta-Duncan [view email][v1] Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:33:38 UTC (3,800 KB)

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Computer Science > Computation and Language

[Submitted on 27 Jul 2026]

Title:Same Quantity, Different Answer: Numerical Representation Invariance in Language Models

View PDF HTML (experimental)Abstract:Numerically equivalent word problems should yield the same canonical answer whether a quantity is written as a decimal, fraction, percentage, number word, scientific notation, or an exactly converted unit. We generate 3,600 exact-rational problems and 8,600 prompts spanning five identity-preserving transformation families, and evaluate five open-weight systems. After a fixed syntax audit that normalizes common answer forms without an LLM judge, canonical accuracy is 0.969-0.996, but orbit correctness falls to 0.848-0.981 and orbit invariance to 0.851-0.981; invariant-but-wrong orbits account for at most 0.003. Most of the broad strict-parser collapse arises because multiplication-form scientific notation lies outside the implemented number grammar, illustrating how evaluator interfaces can masquerade as reasoning failures. A distinct semantic pathology remains: Mistral Small 4 scores 0.699 on unit-converted inputs and produces 265 errors differing from the label by exact powers of ten. In a separate 9,000-call experiment that allocates equal calls to the compared arms, representation consensus does not outperform paraphrase consensus on a low-error subset and produces substantially more false alarms. The accompanying ancillary archive contains the frozen benchmark, evaluation and audit records, consensus raw responses, manifests, analysis code, and a one-command paper build.

Submission history

From: Ephraim Atta-Duncan [view email][v1] Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:33:38 UTC (3,800 KB)

Ancillary-file links:

Ancillary files (details):

- MANIFEST.json

- Makefile

- README.md

- artifacts/consensus/gpt-oss-20b-mxfp4/consensus_metrics.json

- artifacts/consensus/gpt-oss-20b-mxfp4/manifest.json

- artifacts/consensus/gpt-oss-20b-mxfp4/responses.jsonl

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